Comments on: Conservatives odds on to take Filton and Bradley Stoke in General Election

By: Big Rich

Big Rich — Mon, 15 Feb 2010 14:06:36 +0000

For me it’s quite simple the MP who can guarantee to drag our dial up broadband into the 21st century and sort out the carnage that is thousands of Bradley Stoke-ites trying to get onto the motorway of a morning gets my vote, and that of most people I know I would imagine.

Or I may just vote for Pete because he was my CDT teacher and a thoroughly nice bloke

By: Jon Williams

Jon Williams — Mon, 15 Feb 2010 13:23:45 +0000

Thank you to Barbara who undoubtedly has a point.

Is there any mileage in inviting each of the 3 main candidates to provide an election address? The voting public can have a look at what each candidate is promising for the area and where they stand on national issues e.g. taxation.

Jon W

By: Barabara Woodhouse

Barabara Woodhouse — Mon, 15 Feb 2010 11:36:32 +0000

It would appear that our prospective candidates and their supporters need a few sessions at puppy school where they can learn the basics of how to behave in public. This mud-slinging is childish and unneccessary. How are the younger members of our community expected to behave in a mature and sensible manner when our community leaders insist on behaving like spoilt children telling tales on each other? My vote will go to the candidate who behaves with dignity, maturity and wisdom.

By: SH (Editor)

SH (Editor) — Sat, 13 Feb 2010 23:33:04 +0000

A potentially libelous sentence within Wolfhound's comment of 12th Feb has been deleted, at the request of Jon Williams. I would have liked to have discussed this with Wolfhound, but the email address he/she supplied was invalid. Under UK law, the publisher of a website can apparently be sued for allowing libelous comments by a third party - a risk that I'm not prepared to take. Related link: The Libel Reform Campaign

By: Mark Forsyth

Mark Forsyth — Sat, 13 Feb 2010 16:34:39 +0000

Wolfhound,
Happy to be a Labrador, and look forward to your comments over the coming weeks.

By: Wolfhound

Wolfhound — Fri, 12 Feb 2010 13:13:06 +0000

And so it starts! The phoney election campaign that has been raging in Westminster since MPs returned from their Christmas break has well and truly reached our glorious town and erupted on the Journal comments page.

And why not? There is after all a lot at stake, the chance to be the first MP for Filton and Bradley Stoke is a significant prize and whoever it is, we shouldn’t forget that he or she will put BS firmly on the national political map and that this should be applauded by all.

So for all local political observers then, the coming weeks will certainly be exciting and I’m sure there will be mud slinging from all sides, if not from the candidates themselves, then from their attack dogs seeking a bit of attention to raise their own profiles ahead of the local elections next year.

No surprises then that attack poodle extraordinaire Jon Williams is first out of the trap for the Lib Dems, openly admitting that he is spreading rumours.

Tory Labrador Mark is courting the media, wagging his tail and applauding neutral journalism that confirms his side as favourites and even the lesser spotted local labour sausage dog is getting in on the act.

Who’ll be next? UKIP’s British Bulldog or the Green’s rescued mongrel?
Where will it end? Will the Tories claim best in show?
And How long can I keep this analogy going?

All questions to be answered as election fever grips the nation!

By: Jon Williams

Jon Williams — Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:28:53 +0000

Mark
I wouldn’t make too much of Jack’s time as a councillor on Bristol. There are rumours he had a very poor attendance record!

By: Mark Forsyth

Mark Forsyth — Fri, 12 Feb 2010 09:57:34 +0000

Gary,
I see you point to Jack Lopresti as having little experience, does 8 years as a Bristol City Councillor representing Stockwood (pop about 11,000) not count then, or is your definition of a large community, a big area sparsley populated, such as Pilning and Severn Beach (pop about 3,500). Might I also ask why at last nights local election, the Conservative vote was up 21%, Liberals down 8%, with an overall swing from Liberal to Conservative of 15%. Maybe the Bookies have got it right after all.

By: Gary

Gary — Fri, 12 Feb 2010 09:15:44 +0000

Well I agree with Dave that Mr Lapresti has little track record in representing a large community. Though the Tory machine makes him appear otherwise.

Parish council experience is ok (Ian is a parish councillor I believe) but the experience Peter Tyzack has had as a South Glos councillor (and on Northavon before that) looks pretty substantial – he currently chairs Planning I think.

Peter Tyzack is also Chair of the Severn Estuary Partnership which will have an important voice in determining national energy policy affecting Oldbury and the Barrage scheme.

By: Dave

Dave — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 14:27:57 +0000

Gary, I take it you’re referring to Ian Boulton who is a long serving councillor and chair of a local regeneration partnership?

By: Gary

Gary — Wed, 10 Feb 2010 19:16:19 +0000

Mark Forsyth and Potential Pundit mock but should be concerned too. The reality at the GE could well be that the electorate like the sound of a well proven candidate with a substantial track record for the local community rather than the others who have very little to offer.

By: Mark Forsyth

Mark Forsyth — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 20:26:45 +0000

The reason it has always been down as a 2 horse race, was that neither the Conservative or Labour candidate knew if the Liberal candidate of the week would still be standing by the time they had printed their campaign literature and had it delivered. It also seems a bit sad that Peter Tyzack, in his first post, has a go at the editor, who like Chris from the BSE, has always reported the news from a neutral stand-point. Stating the odds, is hardly taking sides, will he as a result of the ‘poor publicity’ abandon the race, like the two previous liberal nominations.

By: Jon W

Jon W — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 14:53:12 +0000

It’s interesting to see the odds indicating that the Liberal Democrats have a better chance of winning than Labour.

This must be a real blow to the Conservatives who keep saying it’s a “2 horse race” between them and Labour. Is it likely they’ll now change their story? No, despite the facts the Conservatives will keep pedelling the same old rubbish.

Good luck Peter – The local candidate long before he was chosen to fight the seat.

By: Potential Pundit

Potential Pundit — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 14:38:56 +0000

Are the 6/1 odds offered on the Lib Dems winning the seat or are the odds personal to this week’s candidate?

If I back Peter to win I don’t want to loose my stake when he abandons us like his two predecessors.

By: SH (Editor)

SH (Editor) — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 12:29:43 +0000

Peter – thanks for taking the time to leave a comment on The Journal.

Sorry, but I can’t agree that we are “taking sides” by publishing this story – it’s entirely factual and without editorial comment.

Bookmakers do get things wrong, but since the odds are (in theory) determined by market forces, it is not unreasonable to interpret them as a valid indicator.

As you infer, the odds offered by Ladbrokes reflect the views of political pundits rather than the voters on the street.

We will, of course, be giving equal attention to any similar “indicators” that become available as the local General Election campaigns evolve.

P.S. We already have a “go-compare” page on The Journal – the link to it was included at the bottom of the article.

By: Peter Tyzack, Liberal Democrat.

Peter Tyzack, Liberal Democrat. — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 11:50:21 +0000

Thank you so much! Until now one could say without equivocation that the Filton & Bradley Stoke seat is a very close 3-way marginal(BBC and Evening Post agree). Now your erstwhile respected Journal appears to be taking sides, on the basis of gambling odds! Surely the interest of a bookie in setting his odds is to make a profit for himself, so hardly a reliable indicator of how the residents might vote once they have taken the trouble to find out about the individuals who will be standing. The people of Bradley Stoke deserve better than to be treated like mere punters in this way.
Perhaps you will undertake to run an objective ‘go-compare’ page on your website, and let the people decide who they really prefer on the basis of facts not conjecture.?